The Crowd-Sourced Debate Post: Week 3 [Palestinian Statehood]

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Week 3!
Sorry for the week-long lapse, I had a pretty crazy-busy time and couldn't get on my computer much at all. That being said:

Express your opinions on the topic of Palestinian Statehood! If you don't have many, take the time to do some research and educate yourself on this, actually quite important, issue.

Tldr; Talk about Palestinian Statehood, keep posts at +1.

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  • January 21, 2013, 2:25 pm
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    Alright, I was hoping we'd get to talk about this. =D

    On the one hand, I think the Palestinians should have the right to their own state. When I first heard about this conflict, I didn't understand why Gaza was worth tearing to pieces over this. However, I cannot condone the attitudes of Muslim extremists in the region, primarily Hamas and it's Iranian backing. Isreal gets enough crap from the rest of the middle east as it is! It should have every right to defend itself if it feels threatened. Think of it this way: If Canada called for the death and destruction of Americans and the US, how long do you think it would take before we were bombed/invaded? True, both sides have been firing rockets at each other for a while now, but considering the type of anti-zionist rhetoric coming from Hamas, Isreal has been fairly tame. (relatively speaking, extra emphasis on "relatively")

    Long story short: Palestine should get their statehod. Isreal should be able to defend itself/put them down if need be. I also acknowledge there are plenty of innocents caught in the middle of this, but this issue has been going on for ages, diplomacy has gotten little accomplished so I don't kid myself on what could happen.

    My thoughts exactly
    - TheRussianBadger January 22, 2013, 10:39 pm
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    Israel keeps giving more and more to Palestine and Palestine keeps asking for more and more, pretty soon Israel won't be a country if they give in to all of Palestines demands, and Palestinians will not be happy until Israel is taken off the map. I think if the Palestinian side would pipe the fuck down instead of provoking Israel all the time they would probably have already reached peace.

    It's fair enough to want your land back
    - poopiteepoop January 22, 2013, 12:43 pm
    Palestinians haven't controlled 'their land' since 1516 when the ottoman Turks captured it. After the Turks were defeated in 1917, the land then belonged to the British. The British then divided the land in half, creating Israel and Jordan (also partially Palestinian land, why do they not want their land in Jordan back?). To me it just seems like an excuse for Palestinian's hatred for Jews under the guise of wanting their land back.
    - casper667 January 23, 2013, 7:40 pm
    It also gives countries like Iran a way to incite violence against Isreal through arming/funding groups like Hamas.
    If they really just wanted their land back, they'd build political capacity in Isreal, which some already have. (Since Isreal has a 25% muslim population and there are already a few islamic political parties.) They've developed something a center-left wing coalition which has a fair bit of representation in Isreali parliament. Which has increased in the recent election. Whether or not this is cause for worry is another debate.
    - CrazyJay January 24, 2013, 9:19 am
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    To me, the Israeli Palestinian conflict will always exist. On one side you have the Palestinians pissed that they don't have land while on the other side the Israelis are in some areas are encroaching. But what it boils down to is muslim against jew and that conflict has be going on since the dawn of religion.

    That said, I wouldn't equate the two sides. Fundamentalist Islam has a much more hostile reputation than Judaism.
    - CrazyJay January 23, 2013, 4:42 pm
    That's because fundamentalist Islam is violent and barbaric.
    - triclebickle January 23, 2013, 5:30 pm
    Most religion is that way when you think about it.

    Except maybe Bhuddism, though any sane person knows he wasn't a deity, just a guy with cool ideas.
    - TheRussianBadger January 25, 2013, 11:24 am
    Most religion is that way because holy books such as the Koran and bible were written by primitive humans. But this is dipping in to another debate.

    Though Bhuddism, at least to my knowledge is more of a life-style toward inner peace/balance than it is a religion. Which is something many eastern "religions" appear to focus on rather than following a particular doctrine or morality.
    - CrazyJay January 25, 2013, 4:38 pm
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