Quotes By Atheists

20. A man is accepted into a church for what he believes and he is turned out for what he knows. – Samuel Clemens (Mark Twain)

19. Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. – Anonymous

18. With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion. – Steven Weinberg

17. Since the Bible and the church are obviously mistaken in telling us where we came from, how can we trust them to tell us where we are going? – Anonymous

16. The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike. – Delos B. McKown15.

15. Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer. – Anonymous

14. Blind faith is an ironic gift to return to the Creator of human intelligence. – Anonymous

13. What can be asserted without proof can be dismissed without proof. – Christopher Hitchens

12. I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. – Stephen Roberts

11. It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand. – Mark Twain

10. Atheism is a non-prophet organization. – George Carlin

9. Absolute faith corrupts as absolutely as absolute power but absolute power is corrupt only in the hands of the absolutely faithful. – Anonymous

8. Gods are fragile things; they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose of common sense. – Chapman Cohen

7. When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When many people suffer from a delusion it is called religion. – Robert Pirsig

6. Animals do not have gods, they are smarter than that. – Ronnie Snow

5. Most religions prophecy the end of the world and then consistently work together to ensure that these prophecies come true. – Anonymous

4. Religions are like pills, which must be swallowed whole without chewing. – Anonymous

3. If I were not an atheist, I would believe in a God who would choose to save people on the basis of the totality of their lives and not the pattern of their words. I think he would prefer an honest and righteous atheist to a TV preacher whose every word is God, God, God, and whose every deed is foul, foul, foul. – Isaac Asimov

2. Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful. – Seneca the Younger

1. Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? – Epicurus

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    I'm assuming these aren't quotes from the modern-day anonymous?

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    • Dannyl
    • October 26, 2010, 11:20 am
    I imagine anonymous is on the same wave length though.
    - CrazyJay November 19, 2010, 3:36 pm
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    "I am not atheist, how can I not not believe in something that does not exist" ~ anonymous -my favorite-

    Thank you atheism. ^_^
    - ReapersSniper October 26, 2010, 7:34 am
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    A few points I'd like to make:

    - There is no "magic man in the clouds". If a god exists, logically he must exist outside of time and space, viewing and controlling events through science and in kinda the way you might edit a filmstrip.

    - If it so happens that there is a god, he is compassionate and humble. Otherwise he'd be using his absolute power to wreak havoc on our world for laughs, and every day would be an apocalypse. It would be completely impossible to lead an overall happy life.

    - If there is a god, the reason evil exists is because god allows us free will in all cases, including the freedom to choose evil even though he'd rather you didn't. A world that contains both good and evil is preferable to a world without free will.

    Thank you sir.
    - Jofus1992 November 19, 2010, 6:30 am
    If there is a god, it operates in ways that we can't possibly hope to understand, because no one has ever met it. It might not even know we exist, it might be focusing on another solar system, or galaxy for that matter. If there isn't a god, none of this matters. There's no relevancy in your point.
    - CrazyJay November 19, 2010, 6:38 am
    You are quite welcome sir. :)
    - luminosity November 19, 2010, 6:45 am
    "- There is no "magic man in the clouds". If a god exists, logically he must exist outside of time and space, viewing and controlling events through science and in kinda the way you might edit a filmstrip."


    "- If it so happens that there is a god, he is compassionate and humble. Otherwise he'd be using his absolute power to wreak havoc on our world for laughs, and every day would be an apocalypse. It would be completely impossible to lead an overall happy life."

    Uhh, do you realize how many people die a day in less well-off countries? How many disasters the Earth has all of the time? how often people are murdered, things are stolen, etc? If there is an omnipotent being behind all this crap, he is in no way compassionate. If anything, he would have had to create the system of natural selection. A.k.a., all he could possibly give a shit about is the strength an organism has as per survival. Not about silly things like feelings or quality of life.

    "- If there is a god, the reason evil exists is because god allows us free will in all cases, including the freedom to choose evil even though he'd rather you didn't. A world that contains both good and evil is preferable to a world without free will."

    Because it would have been impossible for an all powerful being to create a world with free will and without destruction. Wait... but he is supposed to be all powerful?
    The free will argument makes no sense. Most of what we see as "Free Will" is governed by the inner workings of our neurobiology. Our unconscious brains decide decisions way before out conscious brains are aware of them. Think hard about this.... yeah, what is free will, really? If our brains were created this way, then we were always destined to choose everything we do/will anyway. Etc. etc. etc.

    In other news, my favorite quote with regards to Atheism is from the wonderful Douglas Adams, who was self-identified as a "Radical Atheist:"

    "Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?"
    - Logos385 November 19, 2010, 7:06 am
    Assuming there is a god, evidence of how it operates can be gleaned from the results of its work; you don't necessarily need to have met it. And being outside of time, it would almost definitely be able to view everything at any given moment, kind of like how you might scrutinize individual frames of a video you're producing. This makes it extremely unlikely, although technically still possible, that it hasn't noticed us.

    And the main idea behind my original comment was to disprove some of the arguments against the existence of a god. It remains possible that there is no god, but if anyone thinks they can logically prove it, they are missing a factor somewhere. It is completely impossible to conclusively prove *or* disprove the existence of a god.

    Understanding that there's no way I can ever know for sure (until *maybe* after I die), I choose to believe that there is a god, and I can take comfort in the fact that if it does exist, it is almost definitely a loving god.
    - luminosity November 19, 2010, 7:42 am
    Even though we may not be able to prove the existence or nonexistence of a God, that by no means makes the probability 50% of its existence....

    But anyway, we CAN assess the validity of different claims about the supernatural based on the natural world we find ourselves in, as you very astutely denoted.

    For YWHW to exist exactly as the Bible represented (From a literalist's point of view) there would have had to have been a worldwide flood around 4,000 years ago. There was not. The Earth is also much older than literalists believe, further disproving the view. The biblical literalist's God is disproved.

    Less literal depiction of God, being defined as simply, "the omnipotent and omniscient creator," can also be disproved because of the natural world as we see it, in which logic resides. Omnipotence and omniscience are mutually exclusive, as Karen Owens captures in verse,

    "Can omniscient God, who
    Knows the future, find
    The omnipotence to
    Change His future mind?"

    Meaning that if God knows the future from beginning to end, he is powerless to change it. This is because if he changes the future, he did not accurately know the future in the first place, rendering false his omniscience. Yet, even if, as many say, God has planned out all of his interventions, he is still powerless to change THAT future, ruining his omniscience. Thus, this general idea of God can be disproved as well. Etc.

    I don't get where you are getting a loving God from.
    - Logos385 November 19, 2010, 7:58 am
    On the compassionate thing:

    Just because bad things happen doesn't mean he is not compassionate. Your argument seems to be based off the idea that there is no afterlife. So what if letting those people die and go to heaven that would be the most compassionate thing it(God) could do.

    On free will:

    Free will- the power of making free choices unconstrained by external agencies.
    - Jofus1992 November 19, 2010, 8:13 am
    What I mean by free will is the ability to make decisions that may be either good or bad, selfless or selfish, whether they make sense or not. Without free will we'd be limited to the decisions that make the most logical sense, making the course of our lives extremely predictable and extremely pointless.

    A world with free will and without destruction is logically impossible (EDIT: maybe it would be more appropriate to say "physically impossible"). I believe that God, assuming there is one, is all-powerful *within the bounds of what's logically, physically possible*.

    And do you realize how many of the horrible events that occur on Earth turn into incredible stories with happy endings that wouldn't have been possible without the tragedy that came before them? The bad things that happen to us usually set the stage for us to do or achieve something really good, or for someone else to do so on our behalf. And in any case, without anything bad to compare it to, all the good in the world would be worthless, and life would be rendered meaningless.

    The workings of everything from the universe to the human body seem way too intricate and well-designed for me to believe it all just occurred by chance, even if it's technically possible that it did. If you were to find a working stopwatch, with all its intricate gears and parts, sitting on the beach, you'd be wondering who it belonged to or who made it. You wouldn't be thinking "Oh, it must have just formed there," because what are the odds that the forces of nature just happened to deposit all those materials in exactly the right places? Same goes for the universe, right down to the Big Bang.

    I realize that I don't have all the answers, but I'm trying my best to figure them out.

    Btw, I'll bet a whole bunch of people are going TL;DR right now.
    - luminosity November 19, 2010, 8:45 am
    Thank you very much, sir. I think you may have said it better than I did.
    - luminosity November 19, 2010, 8:47 am
    As I raise the point of not knowing the beginning of time, I see no reason to point it out.

    Another thing, if "God" is playing the role of film editor, then he is not beneficial. If there is no benefit to this entity, there is no logic in worshiping him. Thus the view of a Logistical.

    No logic = no point. Arguing the relavence of this is pointless.
    - FireRoastedFire November 19, 2010, 8:59 am
    I never said it was necessarily the Christian Bible's God I believed in. I believe in the ideal God, the one that makes the most sense. Whether or not the Bible describes this God correctly, I do not know.

    And about the omnipotent/omniscient thing, god doesn't have to be both in order to exist - just as close to both as is physically possible. Refer to the first point in my original post. God would have to be outside of time, viewing and editing it like frames of a video. To know what happens at any given point in time, he looks at that frame, so to speak. To change what happens, he'd probably go to the first frame and edit the starting conditions of the universe to produce the desired result.

    It is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of a higher power, but looking at things as well-designed as the universe, the Earth, the system we call nature, the human body, and so on, the odds of all this occurring by pure chance without guidance from some kind of intelligent, external higher power are so small as to be practically nonexistant.

    I've heard there was an "Ertrov vs. Logos" argument of legendary proportions, and I think I'm beginning to understand what it may have been about. :|
    - luminosity November 19, 2010, 9:31 am
    How does playing the role of film editor prevent God from being beneficial? I only used the "film editor" metaphor because it's simply the easiest way for me to describe how a higher power might control the events of time while being outside of time him-/itself.
    - luminosity November 19, 2010, 9:39 am
    I don't have much time to reply, but I will do my best quickly!

    Which God then? Once you make the claim, we can talk about it in more depth.

    Ok, you don't believe God is Omniscient and Omnipotent, point for you ; P.

    It is impossible to prove a universe negative barring mutual exclusivity in its defining characteristics.

    The design argument is horrifically flawed. I don't know about your family, but my family generally begins to wear glasses around the age of 6 because their eyes begin to fail. I personally was lucky and am glasses-free to this day. Our human body has the SAME hole for breathing and eating. WHAT? That's like an engineer designing a sewer in the middle of a restaurant's conveyer belt, it's asinine. We have tons of back problems, sinus problems, etc., because we used to be creatures that walked with our torso horizontal. Now that we are bipedal, our body can't quite handle it and we are greeted with pain and sickness. The universe? In well over 99% of it, we would die instantly. And you phrased your probability incorrectly. The odds of "all this" occurring by pure chance are so small as to be practically nonexistent. Yep. That's where Evolution, natural selection, physics, chemistry, geology, and general science comes in, and shows exactly how Earth, Universe, and life was formed.

    Haha, I wasn't aware that our arguments were legendary. They were long and long-winded in some cases (sorry team), but often just ended with repetition and no real conclusion. X D.
    - Logos385 November 20, 2010, 2:05 pm
    Ah yes. Heaven. Where we all get to do nothing but worship for all eternity. Sounds awesome.

    What do you define as "External agencies?"
    - Logos385 November 20, 2010, 2:06 pm
    What I am saying is that our brain does exactly that- makes decisions that make the most sense to it and our survival without any say from our conscious selves.

    Why constrain him to logic? If he is, there is no point in saying he is all-powerful.

    Bulllll. I'm sorry, the "Shadow Proves the Sunshine" argument (I do love my Switchfoot, or used to anyway) fails miserably. Whether or not you know something is good it is still good. Even without categorically "bad" events, you would still feel good due to base/instinctual biological responses to external stimuli.

    No one is suggesting chance as a solution. Ever. Show me someone who does?
    Present (thanks for bringing up watches):

    And my posts are always too long. X D
    - Logos385 November 20, 2010, 2:11 pm
    you, my brother, random people on the street.

    That was just the definition from googling it btw
    - Jofus1992 November 20, 2010, 4:26 pm
    I simply believe there is a God that follows the characteristics I've been attempting to describe. I'm not sure if mankind has yet invented a religion that describes this God correctly.

    Although any machine is bound to develop problems and require maintenance, when you look at the biology of the human body in depth, you see that it's a surprisingly efficient machine that embodies the most of the ideals of what we'd like to see in the machines we build. Notice that DNA and RNA work like a sort of advanced computer programming code. And that the brain is more sophisticated and functions better than any computer we've yet built. Our fingers are the most dexterous and versatile tools on Earth. Our circulatory system is a means of delivering energy and fuel that, were it built into a machine, any engineer would describe as being genius and well-thought-out. We have one hole for both eating and breathing because the mouth, particularly the tongue, performs functions to assist in both eating and speech, and thus it's more efficient to combine them. Heck, we even have a backup breathing hole in case our mouth is blocked for any reason.

    When I say there's almost no chance of "all of this" occurring by accident, I'm including the constructs of evolution, natural selection, physics, chemistry, geology, and general science. I believe they are correct about how Earth, the universe, and life were formed, but I also believe there has to have been an intelligence behind these processes.
    - luminosity November 21, 2010, 7:10 am
    Yet we are capable of all kinds of decisions, including ones that are contrary to our personal survival and well-being, as teenagers tend to make.

    I believe that God is constrained to what is physically possible, because if something isn't possible it just plain isn't possible no matter who or what you are. And I believe that although this God is technically capable of illogical decisions and illogical uses of its power, being the ideal being that it is, it sticks to doing the things that make the most sense and are the most beneficial in the long term - a much longer term than humans are capable of planning for. Which may also explain many of the horrible events God allows to happen. He may have allowed, or maybe even caused, them to happen because they result in a better future for mankind or the universe in the long run. Natural disasters, for example, provide the motivation for scientists and engineers to uncover some of the secrets of the universe and to invent technology that not only saves lives in the face of these natural disasters, but also usually provides huge side benefits and sometimes opens the flood gates for an entire new generation of technology. My guess for the *really*-long-term is that this God wants us, along with intelligent life that probably exists on other planets we don't yet know of, to eventually become a star-faring species, meet up with others, and become an intergalactic multi-species civilization. And maybe even that's the means to an even-longer-term goal. But all of this requires technological progress, which is something humans don't tend to have the motivation for when all is well and there's no human suffering for us to work towards ending.

    When I talk about intelligent design, I'm not discounting evolution. Evolution is already basically a proven fact. When I talk about intelligent design, I include the constructs of reproduction, mutation, natural selection, and cell components having natural affinities for each other, with the end goals of evolution and intelligent life in mind. Do those not seem like genius ideas for a "universal engineer" to include in its design of nature?

    Btw, that video is awesome. :D
    - luminosity November 21, 2010, 8:19 am
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    • gryxng
    • October 23, 2010, 1:18 pm
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    Gotta have faith!

    • Albane
    • October 25, 2010, 11:09 am
    George Michael 1987!
    - Math October 26, 2010, 7:46 am
    can i start calling you papa yet?
    - Dannyl October 26, 2010, 11:21 am
    No! Arghhhh It's D-Day +9 and still nothing!
    Get this: All Hallows Eve is the date of starting her off! A Halloween baby!
    - Math October 26, 2010, 12:36 pm
    haha she must be pretty 'difficult' to live with right now xD
    - Dannyl October 26, 2010, 12:38 pm
    Now that's a bit of an understatement.
    - Math October 26, 2010, 12:45 pm
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    This post is full of win, thanks for brightening my day!

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    A delusion held by one person is a mental illness, held by a few is a cult, held by many is a religion. - Robert Todd Carroll

    • Math
    • October 28, 2010, 8:50 am
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    To all those who believe not:

    You are on a path that points in the correct direction, using the ideaoligy of science, but totally dismissing the possibility of a higher power may not be wise. As a Logistical, I see no good reason to make a point of any of this. Let sleeping dogs lie.

    As for those who believe:

    Your dedication and morals based upon a higher power are admirable, but ask yourself a question. "Who says I'm right?" I will bring up the point of "because the bible says so" has the same force as saying "because I saw a bird". Such is the view of a Logistical.

    My point is made. Logic prevails.

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    Epicurus should read the book of Genesis.

    • c8r15
    • October 25, 2010, 10:14 am
    Maybe if he needed a laugh.
    - CrazyJay October 26, 2010, 11:04 am
    stupid comment. what he said in his quote is answered in full in genesis. it explains why earth exists, and why earth isn't a paradise. evil is the result of free will.

    you are a fool to think you're so wise. dont worry, one day you'll mature and try listening for a change, instead of having a preconceived opinion about things of this nature.

    by the way, genesis was written well over 3000 years before epicrurus was born. he was a philosopher, not a scribe.
    - c8r15 November 19, 2010, 9:17 am
    So? Doesn't change the fact that the world is more than 10000 years old and wasn't created in 7 days. It doesn't change the fact that the creationism myth is false. Anything written that long ago, by people who couldn't tell you were the sun went at night is hardly a source of wisdom. Who's the fool? The person who thinks for himself, or the one that will unquestioningly believe a 3000 year old book? Logos has already said this better than I have, if you aren't going to listen to him, I'm not going to waste my time with you.
    - CrazyJay November 19, 2010, 2:59 pm
    OOHHHH NOEEEES, the blind sheep telling him to mature.... maybe it's time you left the herd yourself to grow up and get eyes of your own, and a preconcieved opinion!?!?! hello!!! what the FUCK do you think the bible is?
    - Dragkyre November 19, 2010, 4:38 pm
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