Opinions on the military.

As a member of one of the newest generations in the Marine Corps, I've noticed a couple things.
1. The support;
On my ten days of leave after boot camp, no matter where I went there were many hands to be shaken, hugs to receive, and thanks to be said as an increasing number of people would stop me to say how much they appreciated me. While this was heartwarming to what was left of my soul after the drill instructors had finished with it, it confused me. These people treated me with the respect and gratitude of a war hero, while all I had done was gone through basic training. My unadjusted PFC mind didn't handle this very well, which resulted in many awkward moments where I simply didn't know what to say to them.
2. The antagonists;
I say antagonists simply because I cannot think of a better term to use at this time. As with all great things, there was a downside. That came in the form of these people. Mostly the trolls and rebellious teenagers who thought they understood the world, they were my worst nightmare. The only way I knew to deal with a problem at that point in time was the boot camp way, which was to simply attack it until someone made you stop, or sent you elsewhere. Yelling was never my thing though, therefore my rebuttals normally came in the form of crudely formed insults involving four letter words and personal remarks until I crossed some sort of line and wasn't spoken to again. Life goes on though, and I adjusted accordingly to these people.
3. A short truth;
This is the part where I am reluctant to type. Contrary to popular belief, not everyone who decides to join the military is a decent individual. Even the Marines with their illustrious history of winning battles and presenting themselves as the best are tainted with individuals who probably wouldn't even cut it working at a McDonald's. I know this from personal experience as I have to deal with them on a daily basis. The good news is however, there are still many of us who do care about what we do. As they say, there's always the 10% that ruins it.
4. Your opinion;
I suppose now that I've said some small part of my experience and personal opinion, I'd like to know some of your own. Love us? Hate us? Still stuck somewhere in between? Got any questions? I'll try to answer as best I can for those that do.

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    i've been ARMY for about 4 1/2 years now. i support our troops regardless of where they are or what they're doing. the military is just a job in the sense that you go where you're told by higher ups and unlike most jobs it just keeps going up till you get to the politicians who have never stepped foot on the battlefield. through my time and deployment i've seen a lot and sometimes i think, too much.

    i will agree with you on several points though, the support we receive by the general populace is astounding. regardless of if you have deployed or not you're treated with a decent amount of respect by most for the simple fact that you've chosen to write a blank check to the american people up to and including your life.

    the dissenters, the antagonists, the "put downers" as my grandma likes to call them. they are everywhere, some people get pissed off at people who are better off than them or more organized or whatever. i've learned to smile and say thank you regardless of what's thrown at me. i have an obligation to myself and the american public to not bow to their insults but stand tall and carry on like a soldier should and i sure as hell wont give them the satisfaction of a response. mission first.

    all branches will see the shitheads and assholes that ruin stuff, the army being the (largest?) branch sees the majority i would say. but you get them everywhere and must deal accordingly.

    either way, military is as military does. i support the troops and not the politicians who throw lives away for their own petty gain or the support of companies.

    i wrote that limitless check, i think i deserve the goddamn respect I've worked my ass off for...

    • November 6, 2013, 7:21 pm
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    I have a lot of friends in the military, many members of my family are current and past military, and I've worked with a lot of ex military. My opinion towards members of the military are in the middle of the road really.

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    Love the men and women who serve because to me it's an honorable thing to do and i know most people do it out of a love for their country. i see most of the armed services as having done what they can to help and trying to make a difference in the world. and the average soldiers tend to be good people who honestly deserve our respect

    however it the people at the top that worry me and the people who follow orders without giving any thought to them that truly scare me. don't get me wrong i respect the hell out of anyone who serves, but when our forces are being used in ways I don't believe they were ever meant to be used i question as to why we have these leaders at the top of our armed forces.

    Overall i guess i'm just wary. i know the average soldiers aren't bad people but i'm afraid i don't trust the people at the top. so i guess i'm just iffy on the military as a whole right now. just remember to question the morality of a situation every once in a while, and know that we the people will always support our troops, so long as they stand for we the people.

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    I don't dislike the military, I find it bizarre when people say they do, the military are a vital component of every country.

    I do however dislike the military involvements in recent years. I believe we've all gone downhill since world war 2. I feel the men and women fighting then had a purpose. These days I just don't see much of a purpose.

    How the US claimed they were defending their country when they invaded Iraq is beyond me. But thats history now. Let's move on and try and not cause the same mess in Syria...

    Also on an unrelated note: fuck the Israeli apartheird. It's the 21st century, how can we still let this happen?

    What apartheid?
    - casper667 November 8, 2013, 11:47 am
    Apartheid: A policy or practice of separating or segregating groups.

    Israel's system of control on the Palestinian people through the West Bank Barrier, Jewish only settlements, military checkpoints targeting Palestinians, ID systems imposed upon Palestinians, separate roads for Israelis and Palestinians, inequities in access to land and overall legal rights in Israelis occupied territories.

    They took the land away from the Arabs after the Arabs lived there for a thousand years, much like the Afrikaans took South Africa away from the natives.

    That apartheid.
    - poopiteepoop November 8, 2013, 12:25 pm
    "the West Bank and Gaza are not part of sovereign Israel, they are governed by the elected Palestinian Authority and Hamas leaders"
    I still don't see how this is Israel's fault? And also Israel didn't "take" the land from the arabs, it was given to them by the british in order to gain Jewish support in WWI.
    - casper667 November 11, 2013, 2:57 am
    In the late 1800's Jews made up only 4% of the population in Palestine. By 1947 the Jews had managed to buy 6% of Palestinian territories with help from the British and had grown to 1/3 of the population. With the British empire coming to an end the Jews seized the opportunity and lobbied the newly formed UN heavily to give Palestine to them. The UN sent a delegation to Palestine, which came back and recommended Palestine be partitioned into Jewish and Arab states, giving the majority of the territory to the Jewish state. This was against the wishes of the majority of the people of Palestine, who basically weren't asked what they wanted.

    Sounds like they stole the land to me. Maybe not suddenly or directly, but they certainly did...

    Why are so many Americans so pro-Israel?
    - poopiteepoop November 11, 2013, 4:52 pm
    Some would say they stole it back the Jewish people were originally from that region
    - Tremp20k November 11, 2013, 8:10 pm
    They were first expelled from Judea in 586 BC by the Babylonians and from Jerusalem in AD 136 by the Romans... 2000 years is an awfully long time to lay claim to something.

    If we all stuck to where our ancestors were from approximately 2000 years ago imagine where we'd be...
    - poopiteepoop November 12, 2013, 9:02 am
    No idea. personally when i first heard about it, it sounded to me like the state was taken unjustly from the rightful owners. but this was back in like 7th grade and i never argued about it because i didn't know better. later on though when i thought about what happened it still sounded wrong. personally i don't believe they had the right to take the land.
    but now it's nearly 70 years later so i say it's well past it being too late. i'd rather that everyone calm down and that the apartheid be taken away. people need to learn that the forced cooperation/segregation of a people will only lead to long term instability.
    - 24paperwings November 12, 2013, 11:27 am
    well they were expelled for 2000 years they were raised on stories about their ancestral home and many wished to return there. So when the rest of the world invited them to do that they felt like it was their right and my point is they werent entirely wrong
    - Tremp20k November 15, 2013, 10:52 pm
    Perhaps they weren't entirely wrong, but they certainly weren't entirely right, and the way they went about it has been pretty appalling...
    - poopiteepoop November 16, 2013, 10:12 am
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    I completely support my brothers-in-arms. Even if I may not agree with the political aspects of some wars, I know you guys don't get to decide where you are stationed, deployed, or ordered to do. The fact that you're brave enough to put on the uniform and risk life and limb every day so that we can retain our hope for freedom makes me very happy. Even though many soldiers hope meet a battle, I pray you don't have to be out in the shit. I've lost too many friends to war. They may not have been killed, but what they saw ruined their psyche.
    "There isn't a ruler, a yard stick or a measuring tape in the entire world long enough to compute the strength and capabilities inside you."
    - Paul J. Meyer

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    I love the military. it is all ive ever known. my father served 22 years until he retired so I have been around it all my life. I would join the marines tomorrow if it weren't for my health... I am very jealous and supportive of all the military of our country and I pray for God's protection over them

    • Boss429
    • November 6, 2013, 8:05 pm
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    I like what the Military stands for.
    I do not like who controls the military.

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