Anonymous Speaks for Us... and they're Right.

The U.S government, as most of you know (if not all of you), has been making a huge wave around the internet with SOPA, PIPA, and almost unnoticed, ACTA. Finally Anonymous adresses the issue, and I'm inclined to agree with them:

That Cyber War we all feared would happen, is here.

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    3 days too late guys... And Anonymous is a joke. Their tactics are pretty much internet boycotting. They don't "shut down" sites, they just keep people out of them, like a regular boycott.

    Oh, and SOPA and PIPA died like 3 days ago. Sorry Dudez

    1. They do shut down sites, using denial of service attacks.

    2. SOPA and PIPA are not dead, they've just been delayed.

    3. The biggest threat now is an international treaty called ACTA, which is basically a worldwide version of SOPA, which has been going on in secret for years, and is almost ready to be finalized.
    - Ertrov January 23, 2012, 10:22 pm
    SOPA & PIPA are not completely gone...
    - TryThat January 24, 2012, 3:46 am
    Shut down sites? OH NO! You made it so I cant access a site! When they're done flooding it, LOOK! ITS BACK UP! Its like blocking the doors of a business. No one gets in, but as soon as they leave, the place is still there. Business goes on as usual.
    - WRAPPEDinBACON January 24, 2012, 6:36 pm
    I never said it was a permanent shut down. Also, I didn't downrate you for the record. Here's a plus 1 to be fair.
    - Ertrov January 24, 2012, 6:46 pm
    According to its wording, ACTA is already in effect.
    - Grand6Loki January 24, 2012, 6:49 pm
    Very well then. I shall give back the point I stole...

    - WRAPPEDinBACON January 24, 2012, 6:52 pm
    But not signed by all potential countries yet.
    - Ertrov January 24, 2012, 6:54 pm
    Yes but in the wording it comes into effect thirty days after 6 signatures to ratify the document are installed. Eight signatures are on, therefor it is actually already viable and in effect.
    - Grand6Loki January 24, 2012, 7:11 pm
    Yep, and we can't stop it.
    - Ertrov January 24, 2012, 8:19 pm
    I don't know if I could call them a joke. A joke is funny, this is just sad. Then again if it was not for this group many of these kids would have no purpose, drive or ambition. They want to feel important. I always wonder, if these kids put all this energy into feeding starving children how man lives could they save?
    - johnecash February 8, 2012, 5:02 pm
    I don't know if I could call them a joke. A joke is funny, this is just sad. Then again if it was not for this group many of these kids would have no purpose, drive or ambition. They want to feel important. I always wonder, if these kids put all this energy into feeding starving children how man lives could they save?
    - johnecash February 8, 2012, 5:04 pm
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    shit just got real....

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    • Dawn
    • January 24, 2012, 2:11 am
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    i shale fight for anonymous. no matter what the cost

    You seem to be back!
    Here's my welcome home present:
    *anonymous; no OR *anonymous. No

    Great to have you back!
    - Jackylegs January 23, 2012, 10:16 pm
    - Ertrov January 23, 2012, 10:20 pm
    im not really back im just started coming on regularly because of this stuff thats happening i knew if anon was doing something it would eventuly reach here
    - castlewarsisawsome January 23, 2012, 11:34 pm
    what is this from i want to see more
    - 24paperwings January 24, 2012, 8:59 pm

    - Ertrov January 24, 2012, 9:20 pm
    These punks don't speak for all of us. Most of us can speak for our self and don't hide behind a mask like the KKK does. Real hero's don't wear mask. Cowards do. These kids are as full of themself as the Westboro Baptist Church, but at least the Westboro has the balls to show their face when they act like fools.
    - johnecash February 8, 2012, 4:49 pm
    they aren't saying they are hero's for christ sake nobody does. they are trying to get the word out about things that they think are wrong and while they say we speak for the american people this is just a saying. just like every fucking campaign this year will say we speak for the american people. and the difference between these guys and the WBC is that unlike those cocky ass arrogant assholes these guys are trying their best to do something good with their lives. they are very controversial and would get due to this would probably be arrested if they showed their faces. therefore they hide in the shadows. comparing them to superheros these guys would be more like batman. everyone knows they're there but they do the unseen good. you're looking for superman. now either stop bitching and accept them or look for some guy willing to be superman because i can tell you right now thats not these guys
    - 24paperwings February 8, 2012, 4:57 pm
    I have met supermen. They do not wear mask. Go shake the hand of a member of the armed forces. Supermen and women every last one of them. I have been honored to work with real hero's. These kids like the mask due to the drama of it all. Yes these kids are drama queens.
    I found it funny that you said;
    the difference between these guys and the WBC is that unlike those cocky ass arrogant assholes these guys are trying their best to do something good with their lives.
    WBC as bat shit crazy as they are, both are doing the same thing. They are trying their best to do something good with their lives. How bad are the drama queens when they are just as annoying as WBC.
    They hide behind mask because they are worried about jail time? Well that means they don't care that much about their own message. Now here are some pics of true hero's who didn't need mask, who fought for something much more important, fought without looking like a drama queen and who was willing to give their all for what they believe in.

    - johnecash February 8, 2012, 5:37 pm

    look the WBC spreads hate and are horrible human beings nothing more. i don't give a flying shit what you say but in no way shape or form can these two groups be compared.

    anon on the other hand informs people of what can be seen as abuses by the government and does the best the can to organize PROTESTS! the rest is done by people specialized to do certain things such as take down a website for a short amount of time something most of us would be clueless about.

    i don't care what you say about them being drama queens because in todays world thats exactly what we need because america had the attention span of a flea and won't pay attention if there isn't drama.

    all of those people are great men and women and i respect them for what they did but in todays world it's a hell of a lot harder to get the word out because there are restrictions on everything and people get their lives destroyed if they are found out. for this reason anon hides. they aren't leaders and don't hope to be. they simply are a willing tool information and point out flaws that they see. with out people who do this type of stuff the world falls apart. they are the modern muckrackers. they dig up the corrupt and expose them thats all
    - 24paperwings February 8, 2012, 5:48 pm
    The word of the day is epic fail

    you said

    in todays world it's a hell of a lot harder to get the word out because there are restrictions on everything and people get their lives destroyed
    if they are found out.

    there are so many things wrong with this statement that ill only ask for clarification. i know you are smarter than to think that in the world today with the internet, cellphones, text messaging, face book, ect, it was more difficult for the drama queens to get their message out than the civil rights movement? and don't get me started on the restrictions part. i am fairly certain a black man living in the south had more restrictions on him that the drama queens ever will.

    and what do you mean by get their lives destroyed? Jail time? yeah the civil right movement had that to worry about that to, along with dogs, water hoses and trigger happy red neck cops. My grandmother was one of the marchers at the Selma march. She still bears the scars from the dog attacks. How many drama queens have been attacked? oh yeah none. If you truly think that in todays world its a lot harder to get the word out, all I have to say is

    and thats the word of the day.
    - johnecash February 8, 2012, 6:52 pm
    you have no idea what you're talking about do you? in the civil rights it was pretty fucking obvious something was wrong there. i wasn't implying that there was more restrictions now than during the civil rights in the same way you just attempted to. what i was saying is that due to the way the world operates people are restricted by the media and the political world. know one chooses to look for the truth. what isn't popular isn't paid attention to what people see is instantly accepted as true. back then they understood the issues and were informed. and if not people contacted them and made sure they knew what was going on. the restrictions are on the people by the government alone here or even the media. we are restricted by ourselves. thats what i meant by restrictions jackass i thought it was clear enough myself but obviously i was wrong.

    and aside from this why the fuck would i even want to compare these two? like i said it was pretty fucking obvious something was wrong there. when it comes to this it's not as simple due to the fact that not everyone knows what the hell is going on.

    also it is great that your grandmother walked really it is good for her and im sorry that she got attacked by these asshole redneck comps and dogs. it sucks it really does and it never should have happened. but you can't compare such a blatant abuse of human rights with with people who are covertly trying to point out hey that looks fishy maybe we should warn everyone. these laws have not passed yet and thanks to people getting the message finally they probably wont be.

    also no no of these men and women have been attacked and probably wont be thanks to that mask and many other measures they have taken to ensure that they aren't caught by doing this no one is harmed. unlike people in the civil rights movement these people are not yet prepared to give up everything for this. like i said they aren't heros. but that doesn't mean going to jail wouldn't destroy their lives. it would drag them into a huge long lasting legal battle and have them under watch for the rest of their life.

    what i think is that you have no ground to stand on because i have pointed out no one is claiming they are heros, they don't say they are heros, and that for the most part they simply get the word out about the potential injustices they witness and try to stop. i never attempted to compare the civil rights movement to this situation because the situations are separate. you don't have an argument without them trying to be heros so you jumped at a chance to change the subject when it was a little hazy on what i meant. putting the issue at hand on the back burners of this conversation.

    so basically
    -civil rights oppression > than today
    -civil rights communications skill about important issues (key word important) > than today
    todays attention span < three second give or take
    this issue ≠ issues in the civil rights movement
    jail normally = ruining life
    anon stays hidden = no ruined life + informing us that something is wrong + we speak up for ourselves + the people unite = goal of anon

    im sorry you're such a jackass and don't look to listen to others maybe if you do one day you'll learn that sometimes it's not a hero thats needed but a messenger
    - 24paperwings February 8, 2012, 8:34 pm
    the drama queens like the attention. nothing more.
    you say
    these laws have not passed yet and thanks to people getting the message finally they probably wont be.
    by that i take you mean the drama queens got the message out. yet the majority of the population did not find out from drama queens in mask, they found out from normal news channels. CNN, FOX News, Headline News, hell even google let us know about it. all with out a mask. all without drama. so far all i see are kids who want attention. go worship your hero's. i feel sorry for all the sheep that do.
    - johnecash February 8, 2012, 11:47 pm
    you really are a fucking moron.... THEY ARE NOT HERO'S! they are simply trying to spread a message and use theatrics to do it. the mask is a prop, a tool. just like the media. you're pissed because i'm right and yes while the big companies did get this out as well I myself and many others i know got word of this well before Google and other companies had to resort to the blackout all because of this. we were hoping it wouldn't even need to reach the level it did. also the big new outlet's have become useless letting us know about it after (key word) people like Anon began drawing attention to it. these people are the ones that start to bring it partially to light. they are the messengers not the heros. google and others saw this law coming and after they realized what it could do and how it threatens profit (again key word) they decided to act. the heros of this world are few and far between now we need the messengers to let us the people know whats going on so that one day a new hero can rise (im talking a big hero like MLK or Rosa Parks not your every day hero such as a cop or fire fighter, someone who can change the world) now listen Johne you are a hell of a lot smarter than people give you credit for but even more stubborn than i gave you credit for. learn to listen and open your mind to possibilities. i opened mine to the idea that they are still drama queens. but after looking back on what this group has done it is undeniable that the drama they create is nothing more than a tool, an artistic flare, to get people to listen in a world that is afraid to face the issues and reality. one that can't handle or won't look for the truth themselves anymore. a world that is so pampered and spoiled that we expect the issues to just disappear or magically come to us. that is why they hide in shadows. people want drama and while this isn't the best way to do it this is what they think is needed. Again they are messengers only not hero's
    - 24paperwings February 9, 2012, 9:03 am
    for calling me stubborn... +1
    the drama queens hide for the drama. there is nothing about the majority of the queens video's that require your face to be hidden. they like drama. sorry man, because of what that did to the ps3, they will always in my eyes be part of the problem, not the solution.
    - johnecash February 9, 2012, 10:33 am
    first off thank you for the plus one
    second yes while a majority of it wouldn't require them to hide there faces it is for the small amount of content that they do hide. plus we both agree that it is more for the theatrics that they hide giving them the drama they need to hold the attention of the public. i don't know all the details about the ps3 so i can't comment as to that you are entitled to that opinion but don't disregard mine as false. I believe they are good people trying to spread the word about injustices in a world that will not listen. they are messengers and so far as i'm concerned that is what we need right now
    - 24paperwings February 9, 2012, 4:08 pm
    A lot of bad things in life have been done in the name of good as you like to put it. The drama queens are guilty of just that.
    - johnecash February 10, 2012, 1:27 pm
    "some of the worst things imaginable have been done with the best intentions"- Dr. Grant
    all i can say is at the very least they are trying and as you said i'd rather not be one of the sheep who follow blindly. i'd rather at least try to make things better if i can. i don't deny that some do the wrong in the name of good what we the people must do is decide for ourselves which path we think is right.
    - 24paperwings February 10, 2012, 1:42 pm
    So far all I have seen them do is more harm than good all the while looking like drama queens that fredy mecury would had called gay. these are nothing more they attention loving children who do it for the shock value. the world is a better place without them. these kids are similar to teenagers vandalizing public property in the name of art, or just to be a dick. if they truly wanted to help, there are many ways to make this world a better place. as of this date the drama queens have served no public service. i always wondered how much good, how many starving children could be fed by this group. but instead of helping they would rather fuck up my day.
    - johnecash February 10, 2012, 4:44 pm
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    Too late is right. Things of this nature have been going on for a long time. Although it is good many people are now starting to realize it.

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    Another sleepless night of coding and hacking.

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    As creepy as Anon is, i love it. They are our voice. let the people rise! :D

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    Fuck yeah anonymous that was awesome

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    They surely got a gift for theatrics.

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