What do you think about instating term limits on our congressmen and senators? I believe it would solve a lot of problems. They wouldn't be voting so much to save their career just to do what is really right for America?

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  • Jofus1992
  • November 2, 2010, 7:30 am
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    forget that crap, thats not the problem. the entire voting system is broken. the elections board is broken. if you worked behind the scenes, youd see the incompetence. its disgusting.

    the paid workers that are there on voting day have no idea what theyre doing. that cant read a simple readout.

    the entire elections board is corrupt. i was registered conservative, went to college in a different county. tried to get an absentee ballot for my home county. and they looked me up and told me they could not give me one because "my registration has been cancelled". funny, out of everyone i knew, the only people i knew that got to use an abentee ballot (im talking friends from 3 different states, several different cities) including a friend that was from the same city as me, and went to the same college as me. the only difference was he was a registered democrat. they gave him an absentee ballot. i dont know a single democrat that had trouble. even my brother (independant party) had trouble, which is odd because they usually back the democrats. all the states/cities these occured in are democrat by a great majority.

    also, who makes those machines?? theyre crap! they break, nobody that works at the places knows how to work them. its a disaster.

    and heres an interesting fact. it is not uncommon for an entire "bag" of ballots to go missing. (bag = ballots from a specific election district, put in a locking bag with a security device to make sure it is never opened). nobody checks to make certain that all the ballots arrive, they only really strictly inventory the machines.

    i've seen them let people vote without proper ID, after having a small chat. i've gone to get voter tallies after the polls close. in bigger areas, its not uncommon for a group of people to show up at the end and vote under various names. complain to the voting board, they write it down on a piece of paper and shove it in their ass. as long as their person won, they dont give a shit.

    like i said... the entire voting system is broken.

    • c8r15
    • November 3, 2010, 6:28 am
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    I think voting should be shooken away alltogether. Sure, it gives us right of choice.. but only if there were another way. The way I see it, more time is spent trying to get votes and deciding on policies then there is time spent on actual issues. The most I ever see Senators and Congressmen acting is when its voting time. :\

    • rain42
    • November 2, 2010, 8:48 am
    I'm not quite sure what kind of govt. system you are suggesting there. Could you elaborate?
    - Jofus1992 November 2, 2010, 11:58 am
    I dont even know. Maybe one that hasn't been made yet.. a new government!
    - rain42 November 2, 2010, 7:22 pm
    If we don't vote then that sounds like a dictatorship or a king and queen system. Niether of which have ever worked.
    - Jofus1992 November 3, 2010, 4:40 am
    What he's suggesting is some kind of Feudal system:
    It'll only take you back a thousand years.

    but seriously I understand what he is saying, "more time is spent trying to get votes and deciding on policies then there is time spent on actual issues." -- is this because they're actually working?
    - Math November 3, 2010, 4:50 am
    King and Queen is what we call a Monarchy. These systems do work...for the incredibly wealthy. Kind of like America's polictal system now that I think about it.
    - CrazyJay November 3, 2010, 6:06 am
    I hate that you compare people in America to the shit covered people of monty python and the holy grail.
    - Jofus1992 November 3, 2010, 6:39 am
    At what point did I do that? I'm only talking about governments, not the people who elect/live under them.
    - CrazyJay November 3, 2010, 6:45 am
    You said, "These systems do work...for the incredibly wealthy."

    This just seems to portray america as a place where the system only works for the already rich and powerful like things commonly were in the monarchies of Europe hundreds of years ago.
    - Jofus1992 November 3, 2010, 6:50 am
    An exaggeration, but accurate. America's gov't has never been "for the people and by the people" for years. Politions are paid off by the rich all the time. They pander to corporations all the time, take the Bush tax cuts as an example, these are cuts that less than 2% of the country get. The evidence for global warming is overwhelming, yet even after the worst oil spill in years, oil companies are still thriving, because of thier influence over the people elected.
    - CrazyJay November 3, 2010, 6:52 am
    ok then we agree that Washington is corrupt. But as far as global warming is concerned I'm not convinced that humans have had that much influence. The earth goes through cycles on it's own.
    - Jofus1992 November 3, 2010, 7:16 am
    Methane, CO2, and several other gases have already been proven to create a greenhouse gas effect, which heats up the planet. In moderation, these gases disapate however at the rate that we're currently shooting these gases into the air, the earth is not going to be habitable for long. Global warming is an established fact, whether you're ready to accept it or not. I fail to understand why it's taking your country this long to get it. Europe does, my country does, hell even Osama Bin Laden understand the threat of global warming. Him being evil aside, how come a guy sitting in a cave has a better idea of whats going on than a whole country?

    So what if the earth goes through cycles? that doesn't mean what humans do has no effect. If there's one thing humanity has made clear, we know how to fuck with nature.
    - CrazyJay November 3, 2010, 7:23 am
    - Jofus1992 November 3, 2010, 7:55 am
    This is a pretty old page...Even if it's accurate, the numbers that we're emitting is still going to increase, that doesn't help.
    - CrazyJay November 3, 2010, 11:41 am
    Well of course it's not going to help. But I don't think that we have that much of an influence on it. The earth has natural climate cycles.
    - Jofus1992 November 14, 2010, 7:16 am
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    I'll learn some more about the policies we have regarding this, to make sure I've got it all. Then I'll respond. Great topic.

    • Ertrov
    • November 2, 2010, 4:47 pm
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    I think the senators and congressmen should not have it as a career job.I think they should serve their term and their country,then leave and pursue a different job

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    From Canada, but I definately support term limits for the senate. If the president can't serve for more than 8 years, why should the rest of his government? If only our Prime Minster had a term limit...the only way to get rid of someone in Canada is to vote them out but because we don't have a 2 party system (We have 4 politcal parties, not counting independents.) So right now, Stephen Harper, from the Conservative party is prime minister with barely 1/3 of the countries votes, because support for the other 3 is too divided.

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